5 Nā, ka mea a Tamati ki a ia, "E te Ariki, kāhore mātou e mātau ki te wāhi e haere nā koe; me pēhea ka mātau ai mātou ki te huarahi?"
6 Ka mea a Īhu ki a ia, "Ko ahau te huarahi, te pono, te ora; e kore rawa tētahi tangata e haere ake ki te Matua, ki te kāhore ahau.