3 Yesu akamuyangiki, na kumpwaghila, "Chakaka, nukupwaghila, mundu nangakubhelakeka mala ja kabhele, ngaawezi kuubhona Ukolongwa waka Chapanga."
4 Nikodemu akampwaghile, "Bho, aweza bholi mundu kubhelakeka kabheti, koni asejike? Bho, aweza kujingi mulutumbu lwa mabhu waki mala ja kabheli na kubhelakeka?"
5 Yesu akayangike, "Nukupwaghi chakaka, mundu nangakubhelakeka kwa machi na kwa Roho Mhuhu, ngaawezi kujingila mu Ukolongwa waka Chapanga.