37 Pilato anati, "Kani ndiwe mfumu!"
Yesu anayankha kuti, "Inu mwalondola ponena kuti, Ine ndine mfumu. Kunena zoona, Ine ndinabadwa chifukwa cha chimenechi, ndipo nʼchifukwa chake ndinabwera mʼdziko lapansi, kudzachitira umboni choonadi. Aliyense amene ali mbali yachoonadi amamvera mawu anga."
38 Pilato anafunsa kuti, "Kodi choonadi nʼchiyani?" Ndi mawu awa iye anapitanso kwa Ayuda ndipo anati, "Ine sindikupeza mlandu mwa Iye.