3 Jesu wakanviila ati, "Nchachobeni, ndakwaambila mashimpe, taaku naba omwi wiinga wabona bwami bwa kujulu kakutaaku kuzhalululwa."
4 Ono Nikodemusi wakabuzha ati, "Ino mbuti muntu mbwiinga wazhaluluwa kali kale munene? Kashimpe inga tabajoki lwabili mulivumo muli banyina kwaamba bazhaluluwe!" 5 Jesu wakanviila ati, "Nchanchobeni, taaku naba omwi ukonzha kunjila mu bwami bwa Leza chita wazhalululwa mu maanzhi a mu Muuya.