3 Yesu nakamlonjela, "Ndikomya ndangukulonjela, haduhu munhu yoweza kuwona Undewa wa Nguluwi wone hopondigwa lwa keli." 4 Nikodemo nakamuuza, "Munhu mkulu koweza ndaze kupondigwa kahi? Hambe yaweze kwinjila mmunda mwa mayake na kupondigwa kahi!" 5 Yesu nakamwdichila, "Ndikomya ndangukulonjela, wone munhu hapondigwe kwa mazi na muhe, howeza kwinjila kuli Undewa wa Nguluwi.
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